Time Trial Discussion

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo Sport' started by GTPNewsWire, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. praiano63

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    I will try again later.
    I'm not using the cones , i think the guy who publish the replay ad them on the video. I didn't knew it was possible.
    I will test with the cone now. My biggest problem is the Arnage turn braking point. I was missing it ill the time because no reference on the side of the track.
    The. Cone is perfectly spoted on the point. I think high 27 are possible for me , and a 25 when aliens will enter the event.
     
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  2. akira3d

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    Finally a use for this thing that I won as a daily reward ages ago

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  3. nowcontrol

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    Are you confident that you can achieve all golds at least on the Lewis Hamilton TTs??
    Along with the 1m you get for each gold and unlocking the Cr limit for all golds, you also get 20m for the all gold achievement. and a few free Mercs. ;)

    Buy the Ferrari and have some fun. it's a lovely car to drive. :D
     
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  4. SSAuto

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    I'm not the best driver out there but hopefully people find the setup useful
     
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    Fun times. even with a bit of a silly slip at Indianapolis. :D
     
  6. praiano63

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    Adding 20 points to the front downforce is valid. I'm 28.1xx this way but close to my skills limit. The top ghost is making the difference in the last 2 chicanes , i will try another day , i'm done now. :cheers::cheers:
     
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  7. Dalone

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    Well I hate to lose my $20mil so easily, I've enjoyed never having to worry about having enough money.
    I'm pretty sure I can gold most, if not all, Mr Hamilton's races and I did enjoy doing the ones I have so far, even though it took a while, mind you I'm not sure I can manage to gold 'The Ring'. Wish it was in the non racing Merc instead.

    No matter, your encouragement was exactly what I needed, thanks mate I'm going to do it.
    You know I always enjoyed starting a new GT game when they came out and slowly building up my bank, I'll look at this with that perspective.
     
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  8. nowcontrol

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    I was lucky enough to be gifted the Ferrari only a week after it was put in the game. I've since then saved Cr. in numerous ways (a little of repetitive grinding here and there, but mostly general gameplay) and have bought myself the Jag XJ13, the Ford MkIV, and the Miura so far. :D
    I still have not completed the Hamilton DLC just yet. only the last three to do. :crazy:
     
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  9. Dalone

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    Well I see you are doing very well in the P4, sitting in 5th position.
    I have a bit of catching up to do, I'm currently #101 with 3:34.757, miles behind you, ok for a pauper though.:)
     
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  10. lfm58

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    Better… :):):)

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  11. MIE1992

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    How does it help to raise the front of the 330 P4 while lowering the rear? Is it a physics bug/exploit, or is there actual physics behind that?

    Also, I'd imagine you'd wanna minimize the downforce, right? Maybe leave a tiny bit for the Porsche curves and whatnot, but otherwise, I would think those sliders would almost be entirely to the left. Though I would've thought you'd also want to especially leave some downforce for the rear, given that the 330 P4's drivetrain would make it more prone to oversteer - or at least, I'd think so.
     
  12. praiano63

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    It seems to work according to real physics to me.
    Raising the front low the aerofoils incidence giving less aerodinamic resistance increasing speed.
    T.O.E also positive or negative reduce the top speed in a smaller amount .
    I'm not a real car physics specialist but you can see it perfectly happening in the long le le mans straight.
     
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  13. Sean YZF

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    Had 17 million in the bank, sold a few cars and now I'm skint :lol:
    Put 1st few laps in and it drives canny well, lots of time to gain, good challenge as next week's daily's aren't looking good.
    & I'll prob never have such a high rating on the leader board :cheers:
     
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  14. Pearl Jam

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    Well I caved in, decimated my garage and managed to scrape 20 mil for the Ferrari and it’s a joy to drive, however I’m losing time on the Mulsanne Straight, the top times are touching 200mph plus but I can only manage 193/194 mph tops even with using @praiano63 tune, any idea why guys?
     
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  15. Sean YZF

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    I keep getting track limit pens around Arnage to Porsche Curves, doesn't look like I'm near track limits, having to take it slow there until I figure out my mistake. Need a few more clean laps before I apply praiano63's tune. :tup:

    Edit. Sussed it, I was too far to the right for the left hander :)
     
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  16. Sean YZF

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    Just realised we're friends.
    Bugger you're quick off the mark at this challenge :lol::cheers:
     
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  17. Pearl Jam

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    haha, cheers fella..to be honest,I like doing time trials more than the dailies since there’s only one idiot on the track at a time.
    It’s a great car to drive once you get used to it and I’m sure there’s a bit more to come off the time if I can find a way to get the top speed up
     
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  18. sirjim73

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    Tell me about it! @Pearl Jam is always way ahead of me on these...

    I need to find someone at my own level (about 4 seconds slower than him) to compete with :lol:

    Send me a FR at cutback73 @Sean YZF ?

    Pearl Jam - now you've got the Ferrari, you can get some of those cars back by running the Professional GT League Nostalgia events. They get you 160k each race (240k with CRB) for 10 minutes work :tup:
     
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  19. koshmare

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    Made with praiano63 setup

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    God bless 330 P4 cost :bowdown:

     
  20. Sean YZF

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    Chipping away at my time in the Ferrari. I found it a tad too twitchy with my driving style using @praiano63 full tune. Have put the suspension back to std and will try increasing in increments until I get used to it.
    Watched a few playbacks of other racers too. How do you get away with using that much kerb ? I keep getting penalties whenever I try it :confused: :lol:
    In the top 400, which is a 1st for me :tup:

    Lacking in top speed too, 321 kmh = 200 mph, I'm topping out at 194 mph with the full tune. I run traction control but that shouldn't affect max speed.
     
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  21. billdan

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    If you have the downforce low ( 150/300 ) you should easily be over 320Kmh (200mph).

    Make sure your 5th gear is not valve bouncing, should be set to 370 plus.
    Check to see your Power is set to 448 bhp.

    That's all I can think of, as to why you can't go faster than 194mph.
     
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  22. billdan

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    Yes the penalties suck at La Sarthe, you get a good lead on the downloaded ghost and then you cop a penalty and its back to Restart. :banghead:
     
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  23. sirjim73

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    3m39.0 - I find the downforce adjustment in tuning to be a double edged sword.

    With low down force, faster top speed on the straight, but much slower in corners as the car is much more skitty.

    With high down force, I get the opposite effect.

    These pros and cons seem to cancel each other out for me, as I get a similar overall time, either way. Maybe I'll try downforce in the middle next time :lol:
     
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  24. Sean YZF

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    Thanks for everyone's help.
    Downforce 150 300.
    Max speed set to 230 mph is giving 197 mph without hitting the rev limiter. Last few mph prob down to fine adjustment of gear ratios :tup: :cheers:
     
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  25. Sean YZF

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    Managed 3.34.17 which was good for top 150, unheard of for me, prob the price of the car, ha.
    Possibly mid 33 achievable if I can nail both chicanes instead of just one.
    Gearing making no further difference to top speed, still at 197 mph.
    Going to start changing suspension setup and raise the front etc as reccomended :)

    Edit. Aye, nose up arse down makes 201 mph achievable, don't know if I can get used to the handling though. Nowt else planned for the week :lol:
     
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  26. Dalone

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    3:32.173 for #69 in the Ferrari.
     
  27. Pearl Jam

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    The rarified air of the top 100 :cheers: although I’m sure I’ll be knocked out of it by the end..absolutely loving the P4, it’s a joy to drive. 6AF17BB0-62AF-404C-822D-232C0486A8D1.png
     
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  28. LeGeNd-1

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    I'm no Adrian Newey but logically, in real life raising the front will cause a whole lot of air to get trapped underneath the car and increase drag considerably. The whole car's underside becomes a big parachute basically. At best you'll just slow down, at worst you'll become a pilot ala Mark Webber in Lemans 1999 :sick:

    The "wheelie" trick is a well known method to get higher top speeds in GT game. If you put front height max and rear min you'll always get a few kmh extra. In previous games you could even glitch it even more by putting max rear downforce, and the car will just take off and reach infinite top speed (or as high as the speedo allows).




    I think from PS3 era you can't do this anymore, but the extra few kmh remains valid. One of theories I've heard is because PD modelled the downforce of the car as a simple force vector perpendicular to the car's body. So if you tilt the car in reverse rake, the downforce becomes a pushing forward force which exponentially increases with speed.

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  29. Dalone

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    Thanks for posting, brings back some great memories.

    Currently #68 in the P4 with 3:31.777.
     
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  30. MIE1992

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    Yeah, but the other poster seems to make sense, mentioning how by raising the front and lowering the rear, you can lower the downforce a little more. Maybe there's enough downforce to keep the car planted, but there's still enough of a decrease in downforce to get a little more speed?

    Still, I was thinking of tinkering with the ride height and downforce so that I could potentially be faster through that first section and the Porsche curves. What if I, say, just lowered the ride height on both ends all the way? Could the drag from the aerodynamics (even when downforce is minimized) be compensated with the right gearing, as well? It feels like the car tops out at around 200mph, anyway.