Gran Turismo 7 1.35 Update Now Available: Adds Aston Martin Valkyrie and New Music Rally Races

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Guys I wanted to report a bug, I don't know if it has already happened to someone, I bought the Aston Martin Valkyre, it took me 4 million, when he asked me if I wanted to use it immediately I said no, magically the car is not in the garage, like if i didn't buy it!! 😭
 
And yet despite this, this article from last year did not cause more media storm that it should have been (especially with how it was (a) several months after the 1.06/1.07 incident and (b) GTWS still does not have cash prizes, though they never promoted/promised one to begin with), despite the ongoing push for racing esports seemingly still going (eg. with Rennsport):

I've also heard reports/rumors of on-site, inter-player bullying during the live events.
The reason there wasn’t much backlash over that controversy is because sim racing esports is extremely niche in general and gets significatly less coverage and attetion compared to esports in other genres.

Bottom line though is that esports in GT7 is still alive and ongoing as everything I mentioned happened after that article was written and there’s the upcoming Amsterdam live event happening in August.
 
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The reason there wasn’t much backlash over that controversy is because sim racing esports is extremely niche in general and gets significatly less coverage and attetion compared to esports in other genres.

Bottom line though is that esports in GT7 is still alive and ongoing as everything I mentioned happened after that article was written and there’s the upcoming Amsterdam live event happening in August.
But given it's GT7 - fresh several months from a bad PR before this - we're talking about, I thought the rest of the press missed opportunity to use that to continue talking critically about the game's issues.

(Side note, Roflwaffle's "critique" video barely talk about this aside from a small mention.)
 
The Valkyrie is so much fun, a cross between an old school Group C car and an impossibly good VGT car. Really controllable past 10/10ths.

In reality I think it would feel a bit heavier, they missed their weight target by a lot. To be expected tire wear to be worse than race cars, but I'd say it should even be worse. GT7 being very favorable here.

I think they are also bleeding off downforce at top speeds because the street tires can't handle the combined load of the car's weight and downforce generated. I did not feel that in the game, that also feels like GT7 being a bit favorable.
 
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What exactly is meant by the rewards for the Series events?
I entered the Manufacturers Cup but there's only 1 event left - so I'll pretty much win nothing right?

Is it the same for the Gazoo Racing Cup?
 
What exactly is meant by the rewards for the Series events?
I entered the Manufacturers Cup but there's only 1 event left - so I'll pretty much win nothing right?

Is it the same for the Gazoo Racing Cup?
You now get credits at the end of a championship, potentially several million depending on where you place. The game shows how much you’re projected to win. And yes, this applies to the Toyota Cup.

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Oh wow, I didn't know Toyota Cup would have credit rewards! Just checked now and this is awesome!
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And yet us non-Sport Mode players can’t get a whole season worth of races to equal that payout.
Seriously, PD could run GT Mode seasonal and Sport Mode championships side by side.

I’m not even talking about because PD don’t want to, but look how Sport Mode players can rent cars and get Cr rewards higher than the average World Circuits Events-Championships players.
 
It needs both.

Yes. It has a decent collection of cars, but not so decent collection of circuits.

However AI is just horrible and that should be addressed first IMO.

I'll take 3 months w/o any update but please fix that awfull AI logic.
ok, if someone says that many of the cars in Forza and other games are going to Gran Turismo, they are all welcome.
It is to be expected that this is not part of PDI's plans.
So I ask for circuits.
GT has a good collection of cars, even if many are missing, it also needs events for the cars it has. Of the 450 cars I have in the garage, I've only raced with 50 or not so many.
Buying cars just to color a list isn't what we ask for a game like Gran Turismo.
Making circuits is expensive, it takes some work, they solve it well with a circuit creator, and people are entertained for another 4 years until GT8 comes out.
Because without that, GT7 becomes a game to do weekly TT.
Grateful to those who make designs and take pictures that still bring some life to the game.
 
Wanted to give the new songs in "Music Rally" a try, but the game's telling me I'm in... "broadcast mode"?
 
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Wanted to give the new Music Rallies a try, but the game's telling me I'm in... "broadcast mode"?
That's a mode that prevents copyrighted music from playing so that when streamers broadcast their gameplay they don't get copyright strikes. Some of the Music Rally music is copyrighted, so obviously it won't allow you to play because it can't turn the music off.

Head into the main game and go into settings to turn it off; I think it's in audio settings, but I don't recall.
 
That's a mode that prevents copyrighted music from playing so that when streamers broadcast their gameplay they don't get copyright strikes. Some of the Music Rally music is copyrighted, so obviously it won't allow you to play because it can't turn the music off.

Head into the main game and go into settings to turn it off; I think it's in audio settings, but I don't recall.

Yes, it can be found under the sound settings in the menu.

When the game launched, I decided to stream the game on twitch. Not knowing that the first event it throws at you is the music rally, before you can dive into the sound settings, my content was copyright claimed.

Thankfully I got it overturned, but still...
 
And yet us non-Sport Mode players can’t get a whole season worth of races to equal that payout.
Seriously, PD could run GT Mode seasonal and Sport Mode championships side by side.

I’m not even talking about because PD don’t want to, but look how Sport Mode players can rent cars and get Cr rewards higher than the average World Circuits Events-Championships players.
Since the game’s release Sport mode players have had pitiful credit rewards for the time invested (not that credits is the reason for racing there). These championship rewards are brand new, the online TT payouts didn’t come in until a while after launch (and require quite a lot of effort for the lesser-talented). It’s all long overdue - has been quite hard to gain money for new cars if you spend all your time racing online.

Both modes deserve more ways to make credits, not one over the other.

One last thing - that payout mentioned before was for a very good player near the top of the standings. As an average player I’m due maybe 2 million total for competing in 7 races (1 hour sessions) spread over a month (plus all the practice time). Not actually a lot for the time invested, when I could do World Circuits races and make a lot more.
 
And yet us non-Sport Mode players can’t get a whole season worth of races to equal that payout.
Seriously, PD could run GT Mode seasonal and Sport Mode championships side by side.

I’m not even talking about because PD don’t want to, but look how Sport Mode players can rent cars and get Cr rewards higher than the average World Circuits Events-Championships players.
I really wonder if you're genuine here because you're incredibly off the mark. How offline players can complain about these new GTWS rewards is ridiculous and quite pitiful, if we're being honest. Not even remotely interested in rentals at all, I might add. Offline players are the ones receiving credits worth anything, online we're not even close to your Credit numbers.

The closest online have ever been to offline was in 2022 during the 25th anniversary with extra credit boosts, when we had for example 600% in race A, that specific data is at the very bottom of my post.

@Fezzik already addressed most of this in a post above but I can bring some actual objective numbers to the table too. Several weeks I did data collecting from Sport mode daily race A. Let me add this data below. There's the credit rewards I received, detailed position data and time spent.

Week 3
The week at Monza in the McLaren P1 GTR. Knew I was going to do quite a bit of racing so decided to do some data collecting.

2023 WEEK 3 // DAILY RACE A // CREDIT REWARDS

1: 2nd / 17,174
2: 2nd / 25,761 (CRB)
3: 1st / 26,214
4: 1st / 39,321 (CRB)
5: 2nd / 25,671 (CRB)
6: 3rd / 23,049 (CRB)
7: 1st / 39,321 (CRB)
8: 4th / 13,559
9: 1st / 26,214
10: 2nd / 17,174
11: 3rd / 23,049 (CRB)
12: 2nd / 25,761 (CRB)
13: 3rd / 23,049 (CRB)
14: 5th / 18,982 (CRB)
15: 1st / 39,321 (CRB)
16: 2nd / 25,761 (CRB)
17: 3rd / 15,366
18: 2nd / 17,174
19: 2nd / 25,761 (CRB)
20: 2nd / 25,761 (CRB)
21: 1st / 26,214
22: 1st / 26,214
23: 1st / 39,321 (CRB)
24: 1st / 39,321 (CRB)
25: 2nd / 25,761 (CRB)
26: 2nd / 25,761 (CRB)
27: 4th / 13,559
28: 1st / 39,321 (CRB)
29: 2nd / 25,761 (CRB)
30: 1st / 26,214
31: 1st / 39,321 (CRB)
32: 5th / 18,982 (CRB)
33: 3rd / 23,049 (CRB)
34: 3rd / 23,049 (CRB)
35: 3rd / 15,366
36: 3rd / 23,049 (CRB)
37: 2nd / 25,761 (CRB)
38: 1st / 39,321 (CRB)
39: 2nd / 25,761 (CRB)
40: 1st / 39,321 (CRB)
41: 2nd / 25,761 (CRB)
42: 3rd / 15,366
43: 3rd / 23,049 (CRB)
44: 2nd / 25,761 (CRB)
45: 3rd / 23,049 (CRB)
46: 2nd / 17,174
47: 3rd / 23,049 (CRB)
48: 3rd / 23,049 (CRB)
49: 2nd / 25,761 (CRB)
50: 3rd / 23,049 (CRB)
51: 2nd / 25,761 (CRB)
52: 1st / 39,321 (CRB)
53: 2nd / 25,761 (CRB)
54: 1st / 39,321 (CRB)
55: 1st / 39,321 (CRB)
56: 3rd / 23,049 (CRB)
57: 4th / 20,338 (CRB)
58: 2nd / 25,761 (CRB)
59: 3rd / 23,049 (CRB)
60: 5th / 12,655

TOTAL EARNINGS: 1,527,061
CLEAN RACE BONUS: 45/60 (75%)



RACE INFO: 6 laps / ~10m 15s / ~36,7 kms
TOTAL LAPS: 360
TOTAL KMS: ~2,202 kms
TOTAL TIME SPENT: ~10 hours 15 min
POSITION STATS: 1st (17), 2nd (21), 3rd (16), 4th (3), 5th (3)

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Week 12
I almost can’t believe I raced this much but to my defense (lol), I was home all week and got the idea that I would do some more credit research (I’ve done this thing a couple of times before), even though we all know the payout for online is shamefully low it’s still interesting to get some objective facts and numbers on the table. This time here I didn’t qualify which obviously impacted my finishing position, consequently the idea was something along the lines of “credit earnings for mid/low results in Sport mode”. Since there were quite a few races I’ve put them in detail inside the spoiler below.

2023 WEEK 12 // DAILY RACE A — GR.4 WATKINS GLEN // CREDIT REWARDS

1: 9th / 14,151 (CRB)
2: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
3: 7th / 10,139
4: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
5: 8th / 9,786
6: 7th / 10,139
7: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
8: 11th / 12,960 (CRB)
9: 8th / 9,786
10: 7th / 10,139
11: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
12: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
13: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
14: 5th / 12,343
15: 3rd / 22,482 (CRB)
16: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
17: 3rd / 14,988
18: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
19: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
20: 7th / 10,139
21: 9th / 14,151 (CRB)
22: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
23: 11th / 12,960 (CRB)
24: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
25: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
26: 5th / 12,343
27: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
28: 6th / 11,021
29: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
30: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
31: 9th / 14,151 (CRB)
32: 9th / 9,434
33: 10th / 13,489 (CRB)
34: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
35: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
36: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
37: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
38: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
39: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
40: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
41: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
42: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
43: 6th / 11,021
44: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
45: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
46: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
47: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
48: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
49: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
50: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
51: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
52: 5th / 12,343
53: 8th / 9,786
54: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
55: 3rd / 22,482 (CRB)
56: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
57: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
58: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
59: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
60: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
61: 6th / 11,021
62: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
63: 2nd / 25,128 (CRB)
64: 3rd / 22,482 (CRB) [passing 1,000,000]
65: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
66: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
67: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
68: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
69: 5th / 12,343
70: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
71: 7th / 10,139
72: 2nd / 16,752
73: 11th / 12,960 (CRB)
74: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
75: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
76: 9th / 9,434
77: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
78: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
79: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
80: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
81: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
82: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
83: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
84: 10th / 13,489 (CRB)
85: 7th/ 15,208 (CRB)
86: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
87: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
88: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
89: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
90: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
91: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
92: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
93: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
94: 3rd / 14,988
95: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
96: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
97: 7th / 10,139
98: 10th / 13,489 (CRB)
99: 6th / 11,021
100: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
101: 3rd / 22,482 (CRB)
102: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
103: 4th / 13,225
104: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
105: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
106: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
107: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
108: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
109: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
110: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
111: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
112: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
113: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
114: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
115: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
116: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
117: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
118: 10th / 13,489 (CRB)
119: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
120: 4th / 13,225
121: 5th / 12,343
122: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
123: 7th / 10,139
124: 9th / 14,151 (CRB)
125: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
126: 4th / 13,225
127: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
128: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
129: 4th / 19,837 (CRB) [passing 2,000,000]
130: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
131: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
132: 3rd / 22,482 (CRB)
133: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
134: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
135: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
136: 8th / 9,786
137: 9th / 14,151 (CRB)
138: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
139: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
140: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)

TOTAL EARNINGS: 2,198,275
CLEAN RACE BONUS: 112/140 (80,00%)
RACE INFO: 8 laps / ~10m 5s (605s) / ~32,5 kms
TOTAL LAPS: 1,120
TOTAL KMS: ~4,550 kms
TOTAL TIME SPENT: ~23 hours 30 min (~84,700 seconds) EXCLUDING WAITING TIME*

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Week 15
In the waiting time between one daily race A and the next I can easily do the offline race American Sunday Cup 600 (Three laps around Daytona Speedway in for example a Corvette C8 ’20, Ford GT ’06, Dodge Viper GTS ’13 or the like) four times, earning 22,500 × 4 = 90,000 Cr.

A selection of Cr rewards in the actual daily race A:

10th / 3,952 (NO CRB)
9th / 6,217 (CRB)
8th / 6,450 (CRB)
7th / 6,682 (CRB)
6th / 4,843 (NO CRB)
6th / 7,264 (CRB)
5th / 8,136 (CRB)
4th / 5,811 (NO CRB)
4th / 8,716 (CRB)
2nd / 11,041 (CRB)
1st / 16,854 (CRB)

Please pay more credits for online racing, Polyphony! Five wins in daily A with CRB in all five is less credits (84,270) than four offline cruising wins in Daytona done while waiting (!) for the next online race.

Online = challenge (pay more)
Offline = no challenge (absolutely no logic that this is paying more)
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Week 22
I went absolutely all in at Suzuka last week. Initally hadn’t planned to race this much but the opportunity to beat some previous personal best records opened up and I thought hell, why not? I enjoyed the combo and had the time. Also tested all 48 cars, won with 44, did a tier list. Lamborghini Huracán turned out to be my favourite here. 150 races, 128 wins, 135 CRB.

Also took the opportunity to record some more credit reward statistics as I like to do that. Since there were quite a few races I’ve put them in detail inside the spoiler below.

2023 WEEK 22 // DAILY RACE A — GR.3 SUZUKA // CREDIT REWARDS

1: 4th / 23,176 (CRB | 81,78%)
2: 4th / 15,451 (NO | 81,72%)
3: 2nd / 19,571 (NO | 81,65%)
4: 7th / 17,767 (CRB | 81,67%)
5: 4th / 23,176 (CRB | 81,68%)
6: 10th / 10,506 (NO| 81,62%)
7: 6th / 12,875 (NO | 81,56%)
8: 6th / 12,875 (NO | 81,50%)
9: 5th / 21,631 (CRB | 81,51%)
10: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,52%)
11: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,54%)
12: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,55%)
13: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,57%)
14: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,58%)
15: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,59%)
16: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,61%)
17: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,62%)
18: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,64%)
19: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,65%)
20: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,66%)
21: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,68%)
22: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,69%)
23: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,70%)
24: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,72%)
25: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,73%)
26: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,75%)
27: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,76%)
28: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,77%) — END OF MONDAY
29: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,79%)
30: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,80%)
31: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,81%)
32: 5th / 21,631 (CRB | 81,83%)
33: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,84%)
34: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,85%)
35: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,87%)
36: 2nd / 19,571 (NO | 81,81%)
37: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,82%)
38: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,83%)
39: 2nd / 19,571 (NO | 81,77%)
40: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,79%)
41: 2nd / 29,356 (CRB | 81,80%)
42: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,81%)
43: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,83%)
44: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,84%)
45: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,85%)
46: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,87%)
47: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,88%)
48: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,89%)
49: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,91%)
50: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,92%) — END OF TUESDAY
51: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,93%)
52: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,95%)
53: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,96%)
54: 2nd / 29,356 (CRB | 81,97%)
55: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,99%)
56: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,00%)
57: 4th / 15,451 (NO | 81,94%)
58: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,95%)
59: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,97%)
60: 2nd / 29,356 (CRB | 81,98%)
61: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,99%)
62: 2nd / 19,571 (NO | 81,93%)
63: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,95%)
64: 1st / 29,872 (NO | 81,89%)
65: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,90%) — END OF WEDNESDAY
66: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,91%)
67: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,93%)
68: 1st / 29,872 (NO | 81,87%)
69: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,88%)
70: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,89%)
71: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,91%)
72: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,92%)
73: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,93%)
74: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,94%)
75: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,96%)
76: 1st / 44,808 (CRB 81,97%)
77: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,98%)
78: 8th / 11,433 (NO | 81,92%)
79: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,94%)
80: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,95%)
81: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81, 96%)
82: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,98%)
83: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 81,99%)
84: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,00%)
85: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,02%)
86: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,03%)
87: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,04%)
88: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,05%) — END OF THURSDAY
89: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,07%)
90: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,08%)
91: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,09%)
92: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,10%)
93: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,12%)
94: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,13%)
95: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,14%)
96: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,16%)
97: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,17%)
98: 6th / 12,875 (NO | 82,11%) — SUZUKI VGT THE ABSOLUTE TRASH MACHINE. GR.4 ACCELERATION AND SPEED, EXCEPT NO STABILITY.
99: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,12%)
100: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,14%)
101: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,15%)
102: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,16%)
103: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,17%)
104: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,19%)
105: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,20%)
106: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,21%)
107: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,22%)
108: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,24%) — END OF FRIDAY
109: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,25%)
110: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,26%)
111: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,27%)
112: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,29%)
113: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,30%)
114: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,31%)
115: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,32%)
116: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,34%)
117: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,35%)
118: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,36%)
119: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,37%)
120: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,38%)
121: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,40%)
122: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,41%)
123: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,42%) — END OF SATURDAY
124: 4th / 15,451 (NO | 82,36%)
125: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,38%)
126: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,39%)
127: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,40%)
128: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,41%)
129: 2nd / 19,571 (NO | 82,36%)
130: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,37%)
131: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,38%)
132: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,39%)
133: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,40%)
134: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,42%)
135: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,43%)
136: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,44%)
137: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,45%)
138: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,47%)
139: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,48%)
140: 2nd / 29,356 (CRB | 82,49%)
141: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,50%)
142: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,51%)
143: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,53%)
144: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,54%)
145: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,55%)
146: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,56%)
147: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,57%)
148: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,59%)
149: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,60%)
150: 1st / 44,808 (CRB | 82,61%)

TOTAL EARNINGS: 6,135,129
CLEAN RACE BONUS: 135/150 (90,00%)
# OF LOST CRB: 15

RACE INFO: 5 laps / ~10m 10s / ~30 kms
TOTAL LAPS: 750
TOTAL KMS: ~4,500 kms
TOTAL TIME SPENT: ~25 hours 25 min (~91,500 seconds) *excluding waiting time
POSITION STATS: 1st (128), 2nd (9), 3rd (/), 4th (5), 5th (2), 6th (3), 7th (1), 8th (1), 9th (/), 10th (1), 11th (/), 12th (/)


I definitely need a break now. :lol::cheers::gtpflag:
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2022 week 48 (600% credit boost)
Shame the Lambo V12 VGT at Monza daily A ended a bit earlier, I was thinking I would continue with it in the weekend but oh well, only managed 30. It was fun though. I started tracking some stats of those races since the payout was pretty nice.

WEEK 48 // DAILY RACE A (600% BOOST) // CREDIT REWARDS

1: 3rd / 134,460 (CRB)
2: 6th / 98,868 (CRB)
3: 3rd / 134,460 (CRB)
4: 3rd / 134,460 (CRB)
5: 4th / 118,641 (CRB)
6: 3rd / 134,460 (CRB)
7: 1st / 229,374 (CRB)
8: 5th / 110,731 (CRB) [passing 1M (1,095,454)]
9: 5th / 110,731 (CRB)
10: 5th / 110,731 (CRB)
11: 2nd / 150,279 (CRB)
12: 2nd / 150,279 (CRB)
13: 4th / 118,641 (CRB)
14: 3rd / 134,460 (CRB)
15: 5th / 110,371 (CRB)
16: 3rd / 134,460 (CRB) [passing 2M (2,005,035)]
17: 4th / 118,641 (CRB)
18: 5th / 110,371 (CRB)
19: 4th / 118,641 (CRB)
20: 4th / 79,094
21: 4th / 118,641 (CRB)
22: 4th / 118,641 (CRB)
23: 5th / 110,371 (CRB)
24: 3rd / 89,640
25: 3rd / 134,460 (CRB) [passing 3M (3,003,535)]
26: 2nd / 150,279 (CRB)
27: 2nd / 150,279 (CRB)
28: 2nd / 150,279 (CRB)
29: 5th / 110,731 (CRB)
30: 4th / 118,641 (CRB)


TOTAL EARNINGS: 3,683,744
CLEAN RACE BONUS: 28/30 (93,33%)


RACE INFO: 5 laps / ~8m / ~31,5 kms
TOTAL LAPS: 150
TOTAL KMS: ~945 kms
TOTAL TIME SPENT: ~4 hours
POSITION STATS: 1st (1), 2nd (5), 3rd (8), 4th (8), 5th (7), 6th (1)
 
Since the game’s release Sport mode players have had pitiful credit rewards for the time invested (not that credits is the reason for racing there). These championship rewards are brand new, the online TT payouts didn’t come in until a while after launch (and require quite a lot of effort for the lesser-talented). It’s all long overdue - has been quite hard to gain money for new cars if you spend all your time racing online.

Both modes deserve more ways to make credits, not one over the other.

One last thing - that payout mentioned before was for a very good player near the top of the standings. As an average player I’m due maybe 2 million total for competing in 7 races (1 hour sessions) spread over a month (plus all the practice time). Not actually a lot for the time invested, when I could do World Circuits races and make a lot more.
I really wonder if you're genuine here because you're incredibly off the mark. How offline players can complain about these new GTWS rewards is ridiculous and quite pitiful, if we're being honest. Not even remotely interested in rentals at all, I might add. Offline players are the ones receiving credits worth anything, online we're not even close to your Credit numbers.

The closest online have ever been to offline was in 2022 during the 25th anniversary with extra credit boosts, when we had for example 600% in race A, that specific data is at the very bottom of my post.

@Fezzik already addressed most of this in a post above but I can bring some actual objective numbers to the table too. Several weeks I did data collecting from Sport mode daily race A. Let me add this data below. There's the credit rewards I received, detailed position data and time spent.

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Notice the picture in the post I initially quoted. Theres a potential six million Cr figure purse for a championship. I mention championships. Our highest paid championship offline, is 600,000 Cr. One of the biggest problems are for us offline players to grind. Gets boring for many.

Most offline players are asking for variety. If PD ran the same races available in Sport Mode Championships, for us offline players, with that kind of payout, it would solve a couple problems.

I understand players that only and mainly play Sport Mode, want higher payouts.
 
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Notice the picture in the post I initially quoted. Theres a potential six million Cr figure purse for a championship. I mention championships. Our highest paid championship offline, is 600,000 Cr. One of the biggest problems are for us offline players to grind. Gets boring for many.

Most offline players are asking for variety. If PD ran the same races available in Sport Mode Championships, for us offline players, with that kind of payout, it would solve a couple problems.

I understand players that only and mainly play Sport Mode, want higher payouts.
I agree that single player (not offline, nothing is offline here, thanks PD) needs more variety but your post was talking about payouts / CR rewards, hence the response.

Maybe PD should add a single player version of that championship, but with the same rules. If you want that top potential 6 million CR reward (it’s actually 12 million max for the top league) your result (eg total time) has to be in the top 10% of all players on the leaderboards.
 
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If you already have PS+ and are mainly an offline player bored of the same grind events constantly why not mix it up with some sports mode? I played almost exclusively offline for like 8 months and started getting bored, but the GT Cup and Manufacturer's Cup got me to try online more, months before payouts were announced. I can say with 100% certainty that I'm now having far more fun online than offline. You get some crappy races for sure from time to time, but learning to race against people is far more satisfying than the very predictable offline AI. I never had to even bother learning to drive defensively against the AI because I knew what they were going to do and every race is designed to have you start in last and be faster than the field, unless you do custom races with boost and nerf your ECU to make it a level playing field, or the chili pepper races.

I just want more options to earn credits in general, and any change to increase the abysmal credit payout, online or offline, I can't fathom being upset about, especially since I've played like 250 days out of the last year and still only have like 2/3 of the cars. This buff to sports mode season payouts is very nice and in my opinion, long overdue. I want to see more variety in both, having more than 4 offline events worth your time for credit grinding would be fantastic, as would increased payouts online.
 
Most offline players are asking for variety. If PD ran the same races available in Sport Mode Championships, for us offline players, with that kind of payout, it would solve a couple problems.
So true!

And wish, PD would also run the WTC800 Spa in Sport. My favorite single-player race. Would absolutely love 24hr daytime cycle with dynamic weather in Sport!
 
I have noticed a change in fuel and tire wear. The '02 Viper was getting a bit better MPG and was responding better to the fuel map settings. Tire wear with heavy wets was higher however, at x6 it seems like it would be realistic at x1.
 
And wish, PD would also run the WTC800 Spa in Sport. My favorite single-player race. Would absolutely love 24hr daytime cycle with dynamic weather in Sport!
They ran a half-length version of it during an exhibition season (not sure if it had weather). Last year's GTWS Manufacturers finals at Monaco also looks to be similar to that.
 

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