GTP Cool Wall - GMC Typhoon

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GMC Typhoon


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Mmm, figured you were talking about the K5 Blazer, which was just about a short bed pickup with removable topper.
 
Mmm, figured you were talking about the K5 Blazer, which was just about a short bed pickup with removable topper.

Coolest Chebby ever made. My friend's brother has an old one with at least 7 inches of lift on it, with 39.5 inch Super Swamper TSL's. It's kinda rusting everywhere on the body, but it's got presence! Whether that's 'cause the floorboard is at my chest or that the bumper could decapitate me, I don't know. But it's sweet :D
 
Wow, reading through this thread I'm reminded why I tend to stay away from this forum section. If a car isn't Japanese, used for drifting, or at least has a stupid body kit and wing on it, it's automatically crap. People complaining about 300hp in the early 90s? TOP Japanese SPORTS CARS were just starting to do that at the time, yet here we had trucks and SUVs strolling around with that. And didn't the Supra need twin turbos and twice as many valves to get to that hp rating?

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3.0 L DOHC 24 valve twin-turbocharged inline 6 cylinder engine generating 280-320 hp at 5600 rpm.

Yet most people here wouldn't bat an eye putting that on the cool wall. It's amazing how biased people are just because something is *gasp* American, *gasp* doesnt look flashy, and *gasp* isn't over publicized/dramatized in Hollywood. And if you guys can't spot one of these from a crowd of normal GMC trucks, you're not true car guys. Heck, I remember all the people crying "BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A V6 MUSTANG LOL" when the 03 Cobra was up for vote. And you call yourselves car guys...

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True. In 1/4 mile tests done by Car and Driver and other mags, the Syclone would beat a Ferrari 348ts. The Syclone would also win the 0-60 battle too. The computer in the Sy limits it to 126 MPH, whereas the 348 would go 166. One such test occurred in Colorado at the Bandimere Speedway near Emich GMC. The dealership pitted the Syclone vs. the Ferrari Testarossa, with a 385-horsepower boxer 12-cylinder engine, and in two 1/4 mile test, the GMC Syclone won hands down both times. The ET was 14 seconds flat but it has to be noted that Bandimere is located at an elevationof 5,800 feet.

PS - I voted subzero. Factory sleepers are FTW. Some people don't judge the book by it's cover. We just take advantage of those who do when they pull up next to us :) .
 
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Seriously Uncool. It's a truck, fairly box-like and boring to look at. It has AWD yet it's not meant to go offroad. Now, if they had done this with AMC Gremlin, then it would be cool, if not Sub Zero.
 
Seriously Uncool. It's a truck, fairly box-like and boring to look at. It has AWD yet it's not meant to go offroad. Now, if they had done this with AMC Gremlin, then it would be cool, if not Sub Zero.

Yeah...too bad AMC was bought by CHRYSLER and not GENERAL MOTORS...
 
I love how in this thread, people have to invent reasons for this thing to be uncool. If a car is uncool, you don't really have to explain why it is... it just is...

Agreed.

The Typhoon and Syclone were two of the fastest things you could buy to drive during their time... period. Faster than the Vette. Faster than a Ferrari. They were absolute bonkers.

I also love how it's criticized for having AWD and not being meant for offroad...um...what about the Skyline? There are serious double standards held towards American vehicles. They can't be AWD and not be meant for offroad, while Japanese sports cars can. A 12v V6 with 1 turbo underrated at 280hp is pathetic, but a Japanese 24V twin turbo V6 with the same hp is groundbreaking and cool. What people don't understand is that the from the mid 80s on, auto manufacturers were *just* starting to figure out ways to make horsepower with the strict emissions regulations, so any vehicle from that time period or before is going to have bad numbers compared to todays cars. Don't even get me started on the guys that "cant tell the difference between it and a normal truck."

You might make a case for them being uncool because they're just small, dumpy looking trucks... but that's the superficial kind of cool.

This cool goes down to the bone. :D

People just don't like sleepers. There is nothing I enjoy more than seeing a bare-bones, average looking car go up against a car that's considered "cool" and/or "flashy" and just blow its doors off. Unfortunately for most people, if it's not a household name car, not used in Hollywood or Top Gear, and doesnt have a crazy body kit and 20in wheels, and more than 4 cylinders (that only applies to American vehicles) it's not cool.
 
Seriously Uncool. It's a truck, fairly box-like and boring to look at. It has AWD yet it's not meant to go offroad. Now, if they had done this with AMC Gremlin, then it would be cool, if not Sub Zero.

A lot of cars have AWD that isn't meant for off road. What about Skylines, Evo's, STI's, Lambos, etc.?
 
Wow, reading through this thread I'm reminded why I tend to stay away from this forum section. If a car isn't Japanese, used for drifting, or at least has a stupid body kit and wing on it, it's automatically crap.

Two points here.

First, what has "crap" got to do with "cool"? It's a cool wall, not a crap wall. Crap cars can be cool, and cool cars can be crap.

However, since you're already equating "crap" to "not cool" I'd like you to explain how these non-Japanese, non-drifting, non-kitted/winged cars have made it into the cool sections despite being "automatically crap" according to your characterisation of our members:


 
A lot of cars have AWD that isn't meant for off road. What about Skylines, Evo's, STI's, Lambos, etc.?

Evo's and STI's belong in the dirt, I swear it makes them ten times as fun :lol:. I'll agree on the Skyline, and the Lambo, but I bet you could give 'em hell on a dirt road and they would be lot's of fun.

Are Subaru's really not meant for off road though? You'd never know it when you take one there, it's like native habitat or something. :lol:
 
Off road, In most cases, means trails and rocks and stuff. sand and dunes. Mud and fields. Cars and buses. Stuff that requires ground clearance and suspension travel.

Not gravel roads.
 
No proper "AWD" system is suited for off-road use. Selectable 4WD however is.

Yup.

My front-wheel drive car can do gravel roads. Heck, my non-LSD equipped rear-wheel drive truck can do that, too.

Honest-to-goodness harsh condition off-roading is the domain of selectable 4WD, preferably with low-range gearing and differential lockers.

Of course... the base Impreza does the WRX one better by actually having a selectable low-range box. Still doesn't have the ground clearance of the skateboard, but that's more off-roading credentials for you than a CR-V! :lol:

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RE: Famine's post... to note... Bigfoot is not only American... it's a truck. So a pickup can make it with this crowd. Unfortunately all they'll give this one is a "cool".

Damn. And the Crown Vic got so close to being sub-zero... :lol: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=115179
 
Off road, In most cases, means trails and rocks and stuff. sand and dunes. Mud and fields. Cars and buses. Stuff that requires ground clearance and suspension travel.

Not gravel roads.

Meh, maybe we just have weak trails and mud here. :lol:
 
A lot of cars have AWD that isn't meant for off road. What about Skylines, Evo's, STI's, Lambos, etc.?

Skylines are purely RWD until traction is lost. Evo's are Mitsubishis technology showcases, and show me a recent Subaru that doesn't have AWD as standard. Lambos have it because it keeps their drivers somewhat alive when they release all those ponies, not to mention that it helps the cars to stay in one piece even when the drivers skills are not that good.. to a certain extent.
 
Skylines are purely RWD until traction is lost. Evo's are Mitsubishis technology showcases, and show me a recent Subaru that doesn't have AWD as standard. Lambos have it because it keeps their drivers somewhat alive when they release all those ponies, not to mention that it helps the cars to stay in one piece even when the drivers skills are not that good.. to a certain extent.

This still doesn't help your point, basically you just told me that AWD systems are used for things other then off roading. The Typhoon had AWD for traction and handling, the same reason Lambos have it.
 
For traction, yes, but for handling? Not so much.. Making Typhoon AWD just incorporated the FF understeer department into the handling. As a Mini owner, you should be familiar with that phenomenon. And I wouldn't call that an advantage. And just to make things worse, it's practically a van, which gives it higher center of gravity.. which makes the handling even worse. Thus, it was a botched attempt at performance vehicle.
 
For traction, yes, but for handling? Not so much.. Making Typhoon AWD just incorporated the FF understeer department into the handling. As a Mini owner, you should be familiar with that phenomenon. And I wouldn't call that an advantage. And just to make things worse, it's practically a van, which gives it higher center of gravity.. which makes the handling even worse. Thus, it was a botched attempt at performance vehicle.

(A Mini owner would understand what front-wheel drive does for a short-wheelbase car. It makes it easier to countersteer out of a slide. A rear wheel drive Mini would be much like a Clio V6... you can't provoke it into "fun" oversteer angles... instead... you drive it more like an old-fashioned 911... you drive within the limits and try not to provoke it... it'll be faster... but no... it won't be much fun. As a side note: rear-drive Starlets are awesome autocrossers... but generally too twitchy for big-course drifting or track-attacks)

Maybe you haven't driven many rear-wheel drive pickups... but basically...

Where your basic rear-wheel drive sportscar will be a finely balanced machine with neutral handling that edges out into oversteer if you provoke it, your basic rear-wheel drive pickup will know only two cornering attitudes: piggish, nose-heavy understeer... and lovely, unwieldy snappy-snap oversteer as the unladen rear end skips across the road. And they don't even have the low moment of inertia that hot hatches do that allow you to catch them easily... or the front-wheel drive or all-wheel drive that most hot hatches have that helps you "pull" out of slides.

And most RWD pickups can't put power down worth squat (thanks to that very front-heavy weight balance) unless they have rear tires the size of Texas.

The Sy/Ty had AWD with a rear-biased 35-65 torque split, an LSD, a lower ride height than the standard vehicle, with an uprated suspension and low-profile (for the early 90's) tires. The skidpad numbers were about 0.05 - 0.1 gs short of sportscars of the same period... around the same as most sedans of the time... and while they didn't set the world afire in the way they cornered, no contemporary road tests labelled them as understeering pigs.

That's not to say they're great sportscars... modern road tests (I've got an issue of Hemmings open on my table right now, with a road review of the Marlboro edition Syclone... and Motive has one HERE. ) note that these are basically creaky ladder-frame live-axle trucks with lots of go-faster goodies and grip... but therein lies the genius of these cars.

The development team that worked on the Syclone/Typhoon twins made pigs fly. A longstanding automotive tradition in the same vein that spawned the Lancia Delta Integrale and the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution. And an Evolution or Integrale is more practical than a Sy/Ty. More doors, more seats, and even more cargo capacity (cargo load limit on the Sy: 500 pounds... pathetic).

In other words... here was a truck that was faster than a Ferrari and nearly as impractical. If the utter absurdity of the Sy/Ty isn't cause for celebration, I don't know what is.
 
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For traction, yes, but for handling? Not so much.. Making Typhoon AWD just incorporated the FF understeer department into the handling. As a Mini owner, you should be familiar with that phenomenon. And I wouldn't call that an advantage. And just to make things worse, it's practically a van, which gives it higher center of gravity.. which makes the handling even worse. Thus, it was a botched attempt at performance vehicle.

Read niky's post, it says just about everything I would say and he gets it. You can think the vehicle is uncool for all sorts of reasons but you are clearly talking about a subject you don't know. Go research the truck and then come back to us.

And I've seen Typhoons run, they handle very well and that's not just for an SUV either.
 
In other words... here was a truck that was faster than a Ferrari and nearly as impractical. If the utter absurdity of the Sy/Ty isn't cause for celebration, I don't know what is.

FTMFW! It's a shame that auto makers don't really take similar risks any more.

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FTMFW! It's a shame that auto makers don't really take similar risks any more.

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GM did stick the Corvette engine into a Trailblazer, it wasn't as risky as say turbocharging the 4.2L I6 like they should have, but still they built a fast SUV.
 
GM did stick the Corvette engine into a Trailblazer, it wasn't as risky as say turbocharging the 4.2L I6 like they should have, but still they built a fast SUV.

Well this is definitely true. They're very stout. I had the pleasure of getting my butt handed to me by one of those at the track. "Oh look an SUV, no big deal..........oh.......hmm...............cya" :ouch:
 
GM did stick the Corvette engine into a Trailblazer, it wasn't as risky as say turbocharging the 4.2L I6 like they should have, but still they built a fast SUV.

And lets not forget that it made an awsome noise as well. Those SS Trailblazers I like, but all blacked out.
 
Short box? BAH! I don't need no stinkin' short box! Longer box = more weight transfer :D


And the excuse to get side pipes I can shoot fire out of...
 
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