Are you be done with GT6 because of GT Sport being announced?
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I don't disagree with that, but I was talking about why we as humans desire better graphics. It's because we desire any visual medium, which a video game is, to look as close to reality as possible.
We're still a LONG way from this, but this is where we're headed, it's just the continuous natural progression.
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I purchased Assetto Corsa on October 3rd, 2015. My intentions, at the time, were to spend most of my time in AC, but still play GT6 a little bit here and there...at least a couple of nights a week. Before October 3rd, I played GT6 seven days a week. The way it actually turned out? I haven't turned on my PS3 since October 2nd, 2015 and I honestly can't say that I plan on loading GT6 any time soon. At the moment, I have no desire for a PS4 and Gran Turismo Sport. Maybe that will change when it actually releases, but I am not excited about it or anything.
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- Johnnypenso
Of course it depends on each game. No one expects Mario Kart to look realistic. But for those games that do attempt to depict realism, which is nearly every big selling game on XBone and PS, what that reality looks like matters to most people, independently from the gameplay. Sports games especially, are just more fun to play when you can see and do everything that is realistic and duplicate a real sporting event as closely as possible. Don't confuse this with deliberate design changes that negatively affect the gameplay of a particular franchise, it's a completely separate issue.
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Many of the best selling games on both consoles are fantasy games.
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- Johnnypenso
Gamespot says these are the best selling PS4 games for 2014
PlayStation 4:
So the point remains. Graphics are going to be a high priority on any game attempting to mimic reality. Even so called fantasy games have large reality elements to them even if many of the characters and elements are not based on real people or things. The better they look the more convincing they are.
I'm pretty sure that an Early Gran Turismo 3 Demo (late '00/early '01) isn't Gran Turismo 4 ('04/'05)...
Just pointing out.
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And just to point out active GTP members in a nutshell nowadays.
% 80 : I have moved on to other video games series, GT sucks and outdated... even that horrible understeering simulator called GT4 which's clearly one of the best PS2 games of all time... and I ether visit this sub forum to just bash GT to hell and get tons of likes or abandoned GT or video games forums to the point that it isn't "GT" Planet anymore...
Also I hate next gen and sim racing wheels because I have to pay for a game price yearly for just online even though I'm fine with buying tons of smart phones and other stuff every year...
Also I had to upgrade wheels which's sucks and make me hate racing games just because I can't own a wheel...and DS4 is impossible for me...
% 20 fans that like GT series but find GT6 to be disappointed, still likes older games of the series and want GT sport to be good. Also they get bashed just because they tried to defend GT in anything...
GTP with GT in a nutshell...
Sorry I had to do it...
I admit that I'm half of that % 80 and % 20 percent...
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Funny how you're presumably putting those quotes up as evidence of the @ToyGTone 80%. Some of them certainly are, some most definitely are not. A remarkable amount are directed squarely at GT6 and Polyphony's recent failures, and either explicitly or implicitly state that Polyphony and GT used to be really good.
I got to mine in fourth (because there was guaranteed to be one in there somewhere), and I can tell you now that you're absolutely assigning me to the wrong category. Especially given that the quote only directly references GT5 and 6, so you have no idea what I think of Gran Turismo in general.
IMO, GT3 was the best. GT1 and 2 were incredible. GT4 was a very, very good game, but I felt relied a little too much on sheer volume of content. It did introduce some interesting features though, which I would have liked to see developed further. GT5P I actually thought was really strong, despite it's small size.
GT5 was unfortunate, because while there was a decent game in there, it was well hidden behind bugs, frame rate issues, low quality assets, and some peculiar design choices. GT6 unfortunately improved things that weren't really that bad at the cost of even more wacky design choices, features that only the few will ever use, and post-release support that clearly didn't go anything like it was planned to.
I like GT, but I have spent more time in the last six months playing GT5P and GT3 than I have GT6. And if my PSP's battery hadn't died, I'd probably have been playing GT1 and 2 as well.
Most of the discussion that goes on at the moment is about either GT6 or GT Sport. Don't make the mistake of assuming that people's opinions about the latest games reflect their opinions about the series in general unless they actually say so.
I think you should make more effort to confirm that your quotes actually say what you think they say, and not just what you want them to say to try and prove a point. There's a lot of people who love Gran Turismo, but don't love what Gran Turismo has become.
While some people might have come here simply to bash GT, I think it's more likely that most came because at some point they loved GT. I joined while waiting for GT5. I loved the series as a kid, liked GT4, loved GT5P, and wanted to talk about GT5 while we waited. I think GT6 is a passable game compared to games in general, but compared to how amazing past GT games were it's fairly awful. GT Sport looks interesting from what little we've been told so far. It's certainly a step in the right direction, and I'm pretty sure I've said that in other threads.
I think that fits me more into:
Except for the bashing part. People bash me because they see me as some sort of anti-GT apostate. It's just that the things that I think GT6 does well aren't questioned by most. GT6's premium cars and tracks do look pretty. It does have an enormous selection of cars and tracks. Pretty much all the rest of the game is somewhere between slightly above average and awful. Although there are some bits that simply appear awful, like the AI which I suspect is at least pretty good when it's not hamstrung by a horrible rubber band system (design choices again).
@Turnaround Its pretty interesting that you put all the quotes. One of your link are post from @Lewis_Hamilton_ that covers how much i feel being here lately.
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So far, I think that this statement is the best interpretation of my list.
You're right that I made the list sound like it was people's opinions of GT as a whole, and that was born out of my idea that GT6 is representative of the franchise as it stands today and thus is the face of Gran Turismo the franchise.
Ghost of GT present if you will.
GT5 and back I tend to view as the GT as it was (and in some ways the GT I wish was still here) and that GT6 is the present day incarnation. One most seem to have some disappointment with. Perhaps I'm mistaken in this thinking.
@FrzGT, I see you caught that one.
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If that's so, then that list is better described as the 20% of people who like GT but were disappointed with GT6.
No, I think you're right. It's just that it's easy to see people's dissatisfaction with GT6 and forget that in all likelihood, GT6 isn't the reason that they became GT fans in the first place.
I think it's also easy to see comments like mine about how hesitant I would be to buy a future GT game and misinterpret that as hoping that the next game would be bad.
In general, I like racing games. I'd love another good racing game, and if GT Sport or GT7 were excellent racing games then I would love to buy them. What's changed is that before the PS3 generation, I would have paid a lot of money for the next Gran Turismo game even if it got worldwide 0/10 reviews and came smeared in excrement. Right now, I'll pay a reasonable price for the next Gran Turismo game after reading reviews from several reviewers and players that I trust, and probably having played it for a little bit myself to satisfy myself that it's quality meets what I expect for my money.
That's mostly because I (and I assume others) do take GT6 as representative of the current face of GT. If GTS is going to be more of GT6, then to be honest I want no part of it. If GTS is going to take the good parts of GT6 and develop in new directions, then I'm totally on board. Well, as on board as I can be without owning a PS4.
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I'm sticking with gt6 because gt sport doesn't support my Logitech g27! Lol...just kidding. I'm not one of those whinning blokes. I have a t300 and a t500.
I actually just picked up a super slim 500gb ps3 brand new last night. Installed updates 1-6, loaded up the game, quit, installed updates 7-21, had a few beers, fell asleep, loaded up my save game backup last night from Feb 2015, and I'm back up and running right where I left off. Feels great to be back!!
I got excited to finally hear about gran turismo for ps4, so thats what got me back into gt6. Its time to get back into gt! I've really missed this game since I got sucked into Iracing last year. There's just something about the gran turismo games that keeps me entertained, no matter what mode, race, offline, or online.
I actually just picked up a super slim 500gb ps3 brand new last night. Installed updates 1-6, loaded up the game, quit, installed updates 7-21, had a few beers, fell asleep, loaded up my save game backup last night from Feb 2015, and I'm back up and running right where I left off. Feels great to be back!!
I got excited to finally hear about gran turismo for ps4, so thats what got me back into gt6. Its time to get back into gt! I've really missed this game since I got sucked into Iracing last year. There's just something about the gran turismo games that keeps me entertained, no matter what mode, race, offline, or online.
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First world problems, eh?
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Hmm, my two posts are a little off topic for this thread. Time to correct that.
I won't be dropping GT6 because of GT Sport. GTS sounds like it is going to be all about the FIA championship, which means a heavier than usual online focus. Which says something because GT5 and 6 were very dependant on their online components to give them longevity, and I'm not too keen on online play.
Aside from that, i believe that GTSport will not be that different from GT6. From a technical standpoint. For example, I expect that GTSport will continue to treat tires as a single block of rubber, damage will still be next to non-existent for a sim, AI will continue to not be that good, and engine sounds won't improve that much either. Okay, maybe these things will improve but compared to what other racing games are doing they will still be sub-par.
A little warning, this next part might come off as a little depressing for some, tis a little rant.
Think about it, they've practically spent the entirety of the PS3 generation being a gen behind everyone else. They were the only simulator to lack, among other things, a livery editor, a comprehensive damage model, truely intelligent AI, and tire deformation to say nothing about sound quality. If the Q&A and Course Maker (didn't say anything about tablets until the last minute) is any indication, things aren't going to change much on the PS4, which means that seeing the next round of GT compared to their competition is going to be rather painful to see. I've yet to see any indications to the contrary.
It just doesn't seem feasible for PD to just leapfrog themselves to parity with other games.
Gran Turismo used to be my favorite racing game, but it is just too embarrassing to be playing and trying to remain hopeful for a game that has become the joke of the genre ("vacuum cleaners","zombie AI"). A fact I'm reminded of every time I come to GTPlanet. It's just a little too upsetting at this point. For me at least.
I'm not saying that this should all stop, I believe in the phrase "reap what you sow" especially in PD's case. If anything, it might feel good to be able to have the option to join in on the laughing when GTSport and then GT7 rolls around. To put it another way, it might feel good to laugh at the joke rather than being a part of it.
If I'm getting the PS4 for any racing game, it would either be pCARS or Assetto Corsa. Two top notch simulators that at the very least won't be embarrassing to play.
PS - Yeah I've just qualified myself for that little list of mine.
I won't be dropping GT6 because of GT Sport. GTS sounds like it is going to be all about the FIA championship, which means a heavier than usual online focus. Which says something because GT5 and 6 were very dependant on their online components to give them longevity, and I'm not too keen on online play.
Aside from that, i believe that GTSport will not be that different from GT6. From a technical standpoint. For example, I expect that GTSport will continue to treat tires as a single block of rubber, damage will still be next to non-existent for a sim, AI will continue to not be that good, and engine sounds won't improve that much either. Okay, maybe these things will improve but compared to what other racing games are doing they will still be sub-par.
A little warning, this next part might come off as a little depressing for some, tis a little rant.
Think about it, they've practically spent the entirety of the PS3 generation being a gen behind everyone else. They were the only simulator to lack, among other things, a livery editor, a comprehensive damage model, truely intelligent AI, and tire deformation to say nothing about sound quality. If the Q&A and Course Maker (didn't say anything about tablets until the last minute) is any indication, things aren't going to change much on the PS4, which means that seeing the next round of GT compared to their competition is going to be rather painful to see. I've yet to see any indications to the contrary.
It just doesn't seem feasible for PD to just leapfrog themselves to parity with other games.
Gran Turismo used to be my favorite racing game, but it is just too embarrassing to be playing and trying to remain hopeful for a game that has become the joke of the genre ("vacuum cleaners","zombie AI"). A fact I'm reminded of every time I come to GTPlanet. It's just a little too upsetting at this point. For me at least.
I'm not saying that this should all stop, I believe in the phrase "reap what you sow" especially in PD's case. If anything, it might feel good to be able to have the option to join in on the laughing when GTSport and then GT7 rolls around. To put it another way, it might feel good to laugh at the joke rather than being a part of it.
If I'm getting the PS4 for any racing game, it would either be pCARS or Assetto Corsa. Two top notch simulators that at the very least won't be embarrassing to play.
PS - Yeah I've just qualified myself for that little list of mine.
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GT6 is most likely my last GT and I barely play it anymore as it is.
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I also feel the need to add here that I got GT1 on release day and have owned every one since. I've been one of the most diehard fanboys of the series over the years until this year. And it is apparent I am not alone.
GTsport might be great, GT7 might be mind bending, but PD is going to have to almost literally reinvent the wheel to get me back as a continuing fan and patron.
GTsport might be great, GT7 might be mind bending, but PD is going to have to almost literally reinvent the wheel to get me back as a continuing fan and patron.
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Have you started playing a different title? Or have you just abandoned virtual racing?
As of today, I can say that I won't be moving on to GT Sport either. I'm having too much fun with Assetto Corsa and if I move on from AC it will be to something else PC based. However, I think it's easy for me to say that today because GT Sport doesn't exist yet. When it finally gets released I might be so blown away that I run right out and purchase a PS4, equipment if I need it, and GT Sport. Only time will tell...but I can admit that my feelings as of this moment are: I'm done with the GT franchise.
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The fact that it takes that much effort to move between games here is crazy, Plug your system into the wall and be done with it. I can play most racing games without having to adjust to the physics. I can't be the only one who thinks it's possible to play more than one game at a time without leaving the other?
what I mean is hopefully I can get Project cars and a PS4 over the holidays with price drops, but when I do, I'll hang on to my PS3 and GT6 until the day that the online service is dropped.
what I mean is hopefully I can get Project cars and a PS4 over the holidays with price drops, but when I do, I'll hang on to my PS3 and GT6 until the day that the online service is dropped.
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I don't have the time to play two different games. The only reason I've given up on GT6 is because I enjoy Assetto Corsa ten times more than I enjoy GT6. It has nothing to do with adjusting to different physics...there just isn't any reason to play GT6 when I could be truly enjoying my time in AC. I struggle much more with my lap times in AC compared to GT6 - hopefully that will change soon.
@Ettick rFactor 2 intrigues me quite a lot. The modding communities of these PC based sims are incredible!!
I will play GT6 as long as I can. I can't really understand the idea of playing only one game to rule them all, like dropping everything else and playing ONLY AC or ONLY pCars or ONLY rF2, or dropping a game FOREVER. I mean, what? Will somebody take my old copy of a game away if I decide to play anything else? I currently play from time to time GT2, GT3, GT6 and GT5 at the same time with rF, AC, f1C and GTR2 mixed in. I really couldn't choose just one - every game has some funny quirks, some parts better and some parts worse. There's no problem playing GTR2 one day, GTPC mod for rF the other day and top it off with GT6 session on the third day. I would bore myself to death sticking to just one title.
